Gag gag gag!!!! I have to agree with Theo, I have a different perspective though. One is for a free ebook called Merchants of Deception and that will spell out to you exactly what life inside Amway is like. It's a common theme across many Amway Motivational Organizations (AMO). Today, I want to share my list of the top 27 Amway Diamonds of all time, as I see it. Those who earn an invitation will participate in fabulous, once-in-a-lifetime activities, new product offerings, and networking opportunities. Hi Anonymous. And yeah, it was weird and cult like "Tonight we get to watch Dave give the Plan!" Otherwise no one would be making money because nobody who's not an Ambot wants to buy Amway product. They teach you to keep positive, keep pushing to achieve your dreams, and to never quit. So, the real money is in selling the dream. People also make money and live beyond their income, which is not amways fault and it happens to 90% working class people. There are names on the List of Diamonds on Amway Wiki that I dont recognize. Well FUCK YOU asshole! Its really sad that a manufacturer of good products is quite happy to see its reputation get flushed down the sewer. ;) *ShakingMyHead*Mitchellinspiration.wwdb.bizFeel free to e-mail me with any assumptions and doubts about being an IBO, i would be happy to shatter your falsified assumptions. It may only be shared or re-used under licence. If he listens to the Amway cult leaders at every meeting the Diamond makes bazillions of dollars in residual income every month or if he reads the small print in the Amway literature they say Diamond makes about 150k. Or any other night. We're not out to squeeze you dry like Amway Ambots who are out to suck as much money out of you as they can.Good luck to you with all this. And thats why Amway products are so fucking expensive. Thats how a brainwashed Amway asshole thinks. Sometimes it may be a new husband or wife. I just wish this existed back in the late 80s and I wouldn't have to watch my parents spend tens of thousands of dollars on a lost dream. returns to play new Ranger character. Got in in '94, and out in '96. 7 lac volume in group approx. You believe that lying sack of shit? . Yesterday is waste paper, today is news paper, tomorrow is question paper and Amway is the answer paper. More importantly, those mistakes don't define you. I however agreed to meet his guy or I guess what you would call his upline, according to this blog. All of them will never know the actual meaning of "independent"! Anybody can drive around in a Rolls Royce, kid. I can see how that would cost extra but is it viable in the market place. I could go through the entire business plan. For the calendar year 2021, the average income from Amway for all U.S. registered IBOs at the Founders Platinum level and below was $766 before expenses. Get suckered into a Scamway meeting, pull out your phone and surf right over here. The diamond money comes from selling the "tools" that the lower level people think will get them "rich" too.Let's be honest. LOL! My view on it: It can work if you put the effort and time in. Commission from Amway of about $10/month.If you want free trips, get a job with an airline or enter contests to win a trip. You're just a low life commissioned salesperson for this scam outfit. It is my fault for being too curious, I should have known that this "get rich " in a few years is too good to be true. Gross or net and with or without a few cash events Diamonds can't afford to live millionaire lifestyles on that income. And the small print that shows the small percentage of 1% of IBO's who make money at Amway and ask them about that. China is now Amway's largest market, accounting for $2.6 billion in revenue, or about 30 percent of its worldwide sales, the company's president, Doug DeVos, told Reuters last year. LOL! Read that and it'll answer all your questions. It started as us having a coffee and discussing our life goals and dreams, then he lend me a copy of "business of 21st century" by Robert kiyosaki and asked me to read it, and so I did, front to back. Anonymous - Yes! But you are expected to dump a poopload of money into motivational tools (books and tapes) and atten some very expensive functions. Despite the overwhelming evidence presented here and elsewhere that profits from the "tools" business far exceed that from the sale of Amway products, most Amway distributors have continued to insist that little or no profit is made from the sale of tapes and rally tickets. The first sentence of this post says the same thing as the small print of the Amway literature,150k. It's a no-brainer . Thank you. Furthermore, in 2009 Amway held celebrations of their 50th Anniversary and invited all qualified Diamonds and above to Las Vegas. Far from it. we call it "the prosperity Gospel" and that is apart from an insult to Christ, an outright misrepresentation . An Ambot will never come back to clarify their "math". Hi Anonymous. The Financial Jonestown: My experience with the Amway Motivational Organization (AMO) URAssociation. Do you want to take business advice from someone whose business went bankrupt? You just proved a point, 95% quit within 2 years. CRAZY!! It's funny how people will always look at a finished product and say that was easy our he's lucky. You don't have to pay some fucking asshole in your Amway upline $100+ a month for that shit. Why to help middleman (Retailer-Whole Sellers-Dealers & Ad people) to be RICH? So net its a small income. They have an income. They're prudes so if you curse them out they'll stay away from you. Anna. These people we were calling were friends, family and acquaintances, and if they didn't buy in, we were to "flush" them? Well Amway is a pretend business so those ambots can pretend whatever title they want to be. 2 / Brandon Odom pt. Anonymous - when it comes to Amway, Diamonds are not forever! Anonymous - I think you've figured it out. I said "well, he does have 12 people already set up for his downline". Thank you for stopping by and setting us straight. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. Pay attention we got out of Scamway years ago. Theres got to be something more than just commission. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if theyre not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.4. Kiyosaki was homeless for a while fighting for a dream. Good bye biatch. But of course it didn't. Let's just assume he purchased it over time at an average of $450 per share - so $450k out of his claim of making $1.22 million. Also, stop hating what other people do because its their lives not yours and if you want to judge, judge your fucking self, because no one gives a shit what you say or think and go kys bitch. You need to be asked to join the elite, and you are sworn to secrecy. I'm thinking about 95% - 99% of the people in this crap have other jobs. You think you are still fighting and working toward your future. I don't think they get it. They are all taught by their cult masters "everyone not involved with Amway are broke losers", which is ludicrous to anyone not brainwashed. Thats to Amway and other MLM business, common people can take part of the billion dollar industry of distribution. That lifestyle just aint possible on 150k without going into some serious debt. There's an article written by a psychologist that we sometimes reference a link to and he got conned into an Amway meeting and he said people's dreams are usually nothing out of the ordinary - they want to buy a house, go on a nice vacation, etc. I do believe it takes the right people to go Diamond or Ruby or Emerald in the business. They defend Amway as being a multi-billion dollar company, not taking into account that they got that rich off the backs of their poorly commissioned sales people self-consuming the horribly over-priced products and going out and recruiting others to do the same. What if someone valued being around generally positive people?I have met 5 diamonds and I feel a peace I don't see from any employees.GOD BLESSps. A business sells to someone else. Some of the Amway cult leaders are invested in this company.I forgot to warn they'll ask about your dreams. They can connect you with successful people who can help explain how to build the business. We dont moderate comments on weekends. Plus, if they just want to use the products and not do any selling, they can do that too. No one is guaranteed 6 figure income just because they join. They are in negative numbers that month. . 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It was what I'd believed was success. Anonymous - 95% of people are seeking solutions to what? However, let's not forget the money one makes selling books and CDs and tickets to various functions. Yes, we all know WWDB.You get rich by selling CDs, books, and other tools to naive Amway IBOs. Heck, who pays $10? Secondly, it says the average income for diamonds is $400k/year, but that the highest paid diamond was over $2.2mil. It's sad really. You never tell an Amway Ambot your dreams because they'll use it as a weapon against you at a later date like when you're planning to quit. Do I look like a mechanic? Before you go running your mouth on something you dont know about try getting some real facts, not your biased opinion. Anonymous - you better go counsel with the assholes in your Amway upline. How the hell do I know if its fake or not? You decide whether or not to believe the assholes in your Amway upline or what Amway has in the small print of their own literature. After leaving 2 short insulting comments full of typos the 3rd comment was he's a triple executive diamond.The numbers any ambot throws out at you will never add up. In a so called real job, you work every week until you retire at 65 or so. MLM: There ain't no light at the end of the tunnel! Less than $5 for a good name brand at the drugstore. Amway should just be a vehicle to provide that additional income to reinvest say into property or other investment opportunities. If that's the kind of abuse you crave, can't help you.Good luck with whatever you decide. www.bet.com. Otherwise take your agenda somewhere else. What if my dreams aren't as selfish and petty as the typical Ambot dream? The average diamond earns about $150,000, according to Amway. I hate Amway so much, and my poor mom had to fight against so much of Amway's bullshit lifestyles. But I don't think that fucker is going to believe you! And don't get me started on those multiple weekly meetings where you hear the exact same thing you heard at the meeting before and the one before that and so on..And the abuse you took after you quit is the same abuse everyone else gets too. I hissed at her because I belonged to Greenpeace (got my membership in 3rd grade) and the thought of the whole fur coat thing grossed me out, let alone, all these pathetic women clamoring to touch them. Anonymous - fortunately you don't have what it takes to be an Amway Ambot so hope you're not losing too much money while you figure that out. You wont buy much for cash on that. And shouldn't she be about quitting now due to no Amway income? Do you play Final Fantasy 14? If you can help contribute to Amway Wiki with information on existing Diamonds, or even just a simple page with the names of any Diamonds were missing and their level please do so! They don't disclose all the hidden costs to you. Amway altered my pre-teen years, and straight-up destroyed my parents marriage back in the early 1990's (my dad was in Amway & my mom refused to be a part of it) I was 10-15yrs old when I bore witness to the fucking Amway lifestyle.I'm 35 now, and I look back and see all the ways Amway brainwashed my dad. We've gone Diamond. How could it be possible that Diamonds who buy everything with cash and dont take out loans and credit cards could declare bankruptcy. Either way Darnell showed up here spouting off lies and bullshit, undoubtedly duplicating what he's heard from the fucking lying assholes in his Amway upline. 4:45AM Anon?!? ?I'm always amused that it's someone's 'relative' or 'friend' or 'co-worker' or what-the-hell-ever that they know. Then there were the books, all of which were priced at what they'd cost in a bookshop. Could it be that Diamonds are liars about paying for everything in cash? Contrary what you may read by people who don't like what I have to say, this site and my commentary is not endorsed or financially supported in any way by Amway, Alticor, the IBOAI or any other affiliated companies or organizations. A diamond would earn the above profits, plus $1,800 on the additional three direct groups, plus an average diamond bonus of $2061 per month for a total profit of $9,683 per month. www.bet.com. People get caught up in the hype of an Amway meeting, sign up, pay, go home and research it on the Internet and go holy shit this is a cult and a scam and get out right away too. I'm surprised some assholes in his Amway upline hasn't already counselled with him about the hairstyle choice because that's all those Amway bastards do in night owls is bitch at the ambots about what they drive, what they wear, and their hair style. The only way to make money in Amway is selling tools like that book. I've seen stories where they'll say "come to the seminar.. Many entire coutries went bankrupt due to economic recession. THis was before the internet mind you. I'm with you. Making $10 commission after buying hundreds of dollars in overpriced shitty Amway products and investing in the Amway tool scam is not "making money". I have had my own business for over 12 years and I am not rich but I am happy because I am my own boss. Also many diamonds didn't requalify regularly, was easy to tell by who attended Amway's diamond club. You cant live a millionaire lifestyle on an income thats in the low 6 figures. The only question is how much emotional and financial damage will Scamway cause before he quits. no one makes $$$ in Amway below the Diamond pin level. Don't like what you read here? Jumping in kind of late here, but I am a recovering Ambot. Turn a blind eye, whatever, Amway does not sell good products and doesn't have a good reputation so seeing its reputation constantly flushed down the toilet is something head office is well accustomed to. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why theyre getting divorced. And the McDonalds franchise owner makes their money on selling lots of product. Your a little hater and your heart is pure evil. I love my freedom to spend with my family. Ive witnessed this my whole life. "if i don't get him/her back i will end my life.."What, so you can't even tell if your ex lover is a man or a woman? Is Amway suffering from big company syndrome? LOLOL wow. Thats where the money is ticket sales. Either way you are claiming that your parent company has not provided proper information to a governing body, and, based on how you say "we're not supposed to", this is a taught practice within your organization, going up and down your line. Those XS come in a case depending on the flavor costs $30 or $40, so close to $5 a can. In which case you married into the Amway cult knowing you'd have a rough ride ahead of you. Amway isnt a scam. Anonymous - Amway ambots are brainwashed not to believe anything that doesn't come from the lying mouth of an Amway cult leader. Network21? I am texting you "live" from this bull shit praise meeting that makes me want to VOMIT. Why the fuck would I blog about restaurants? Of the nine initial team members, four are considered "alien types" such as beasts and androids. When we build teams it's with people that want to grow and make a difference in there own and others' lives. Ironic that a fucking Amway asshole shows up on a post where we make fun of Amway assholes who go around accusing people in the same income bracket as their beloved Diamonds as broke losers and calls us broke. And Im sure if you take it seriously, you will be up there with all the diamonds too. Wonder what those ambots did in the days before the Internet! Mrs Banana apparently did not do well with Amway. Amway controls much of the process, from where ingredients are sourced (some come from nearly 6,000 acres of Amway-owned certified organic farmlands), to where they are manufactured. Working 7 days a week non stop. If you have a guts you can fly in the sky. A couple years have passed since then and my business has outgrown their "dream" business ten fold and they are still slaving away, loosing friends, creating enemies and trying to recruit people who want to "live the dream." The . Yeah he mentioned dreams multiple times and asked me about what mine is and said his team can help me achieve that, unbelievable. I would lean toward him being full of crap, though.Being an employee working for someone else at $150k per year is a good place to be. Success is NOT just around the corner if there are no outside buyers for the products. They had a proposal to make to me and I agreed to meet them for coffee. The company was founded in 1959 by Jay Van Andel and Richard DeVos and is based in Ada, Michigan. My upline has been in it for 2 years and there paying off all of their bills now. As long as they have a steady stream of suckers paying too much money for generic and substandard Amway products they've got no reason to make changes. How about they keep them cause it's going to cost more in time and gas money than what those brainwashing tools are worth! !That's one hell of night owl to be fired up from.Back in July I posted on this topic, 2 comments up. Not bad money, but the sales organizations sell a mammoth sized lie. Its a waste of time sharing our stories so others don't get sucked into the scam and go through the same financial and emotional distress. Amway now has 17,000+ employees and operates in over 100 countries and territories throughout the world including Canada, China, India, Japan, and Thailand. World Wide Dream Builders (WWDB) is the largest and most successful Amway Motivational Organization. Amway Christians. Now there's a topic for the day. Around here we're not dumb fucks who go around reading stuff that doesn't interest us or might otherwise piss us off. take steps now to have a golden retirement later. You said it Anonymous! $3 per bar seems on the low side. It is only concerned with getting me to sign up, and pay for CDs and books and functions for the rest of my life. And i know it costed him like 10 bucks for it haha..Also, they did give me a protein bar sample which they said costs 3$ per bar. Most people don't have it in them.Your last sentence is correct. Hence all the swearing in this blog! The system is unable to load the contents of this page. Hope that answers your question.Also, think of it this way, who wants to make money off you? Then why show up here and do it? Where Are They Now? An error has occurred, which probably means the feed is down. Where can you do that with a conventional job?? They are greedy, wealth-based and sneer at the poor instead of helping them (though ironically Ambots tend to be poor themselves unless they have a great real J.O.B. Earnings depend on many factors, including: customer base, business experience, effort, dedication, and quality and performance of an IBOs sales team. Oh great another dumb fuck Amway ambot stops by. We always had to write our checks out payable to cash so the Diamonds could avoid paying taxes on it. But Anonymous can go right on "faking it til he makes it" and thinking "everything is awesome" as month after month goes by and he slips deeper and deeper into debt while his upline lovebombs/abuses him and tells him "you can't quit now, not when success is just around the corner. I guess haters will always hate. I was pretty shocked by this book, but all the questions Id been asking myself (but didnt dare voice to my upline) suddenly had answers that made sense. I definitely agree 100% with Alan. Just cause your husband didnt do so good on amway doesnt mean that other people well do the same thing. The best poker players in the world don't play every card they are dealt. Now the Internet has made it a more transparent society. F19 - you Amway "Christians" make the rest of the world sick. My take away message is that anybody can start a legitimate E-commerce by simply googlinng Wikipedia E-commerce and start meaningful old school relationships with clients without scaming and degrading people in a mentally sick way. They have an income"No they don't. Same income. i.e. JUST DO IT. Amway Product Review: Artistry Skin Refinisher. Amway is a way of life. Many drop off the radar because they couldn't keep bullying their downline to buy buy buy. And it takes 10 years to qualify. Yup to the whiteboard and drawing circles on it. That's not what it's about. At least Anna is working to persuade others NOT to embark on that journey to hell. The comment above yours is very typical of an Amway Christian. That goes with any type of business. He even handed me a free xs energy drink. I've had a few features this year from kids of ambots and the stories are so similar and always so sad what they went through. We'd be happy to debunk your falsified assumptions.-Jerry. I'm doing posts about how people are getting prospected by ambots so this will fit in nicely. I sometimes wonder if it was for Mary Henderson (if not Tony) because, some time in the 90s when we were no longer in Amway, Marys secretary admitted that Mary had declared she was happy to stop where they were at the time (which I think was Double Diamond) because she was sick of all the bloody hard work. They invited me to a "marketing" conference, and told me some very successful "entrepreneurs" would be speaking. Your mother sounds exactly like me and so many other women who are married to ambots. Haha all this negative talk is ridiculous. He was 40 years old. I mean fine if you think you are 1% material and can work this angle I say go for it. If you continue to see this error, please contact Customer Service 800-253-6500. You're basically on point with what you've said. Then they get punished and told never question upline. I join this buisness 1 month ago. Alan - if you're putting all your hope in Amway then you have no hope at all. Products are wonderful with high quality. You have focused so much on the WHAT that you totally looked over the WHY. You have to buy books, CD, tickets to Amway meetings. I feel for the other unfortunate souls that got hooked into this scam. Any post with over 100 comments is going to be high on the search engines. These MLM scams are all the same.Amway's got no motivation to get rid of the tool scam. Sounds like all you need to do is keep doing what youre doing and help others to do the same! Be humble, open minded , and loving and God will open doors! I have been looking for an Amway INA diamond to be sponsored by for three years now. I immediately stopped when I found out my sponsor and his wife had been at it for a few years and were STILL working jobs! Sure, nice mark-up for the lipgloss. My diamond makes 1.3 million, and my crown makes 12 million. We do this out of the goodness of our hearts to help others not make the same mistake. Like everything else in Amway.Anyway the guy your friend got you in front of is one of Amway's best closers and like I said if he was working commissioned sales in another business he'd be making good money. everybody in this world if not building this business, he is not doing anything. The Top 27 Amway Diamond Success Stories Now that we've got that out of the way, here are my Amway Diamond Success Stories # 27: Robert and Lois Stonelake The Stonelake's helped put Amway on the map. URA?Or are you going to run and hide, realizing you have made a dangerously invalid remark, with a face attached?-Jerry, You guys shut the hell up you all are broke and if you check the stats Amway is rated much higher than your jobs and it had help more people become financially free. The system that's designed for failure. My story of what its like to be married to an Amway cult follower. Being an adult I figured you and others would have realized this. Where to start? Who should we believe? That's our language so keep your comments in English too. If this guy you met worked in timeshare sales he'd be doing really good wouldn't he!He probably spoke to you about how people who have jobs are stupid. Kyle - subjective. If you leave a comment written in another language then we either have to use Google translate to put it into English so everyone can understand what you wrote or we can hit the Delete button. That's why most people don't want anything to do with Amway. Depends where they are on the get a bigger piece of pie plan. I can't believe Anna Bannana is full of hate, see that's exactly what I don't want to become! I have yet to have someone tell me that they were involved in this great transportation company and then have it turn out to be a Toyota salesman trying get me to buy a car. John and Jennie Belle Crowe are Amway legends, having been in the business almost fifty years now. Please check your Minimum Browser Requirements. Why? Christ says "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven." Yes, it's the same fucking plan, that Bob, Steve, Al, and Jim have done the last several nights in a row. It is a complete fraud. LOL! Lying and bullshitting. "Just like yourself I got started about a decade ago and I graduated top of my class and got multiple job offers. those who drive the most volume make more money no matter, age, race, religion, or background. After all, as we speak, IBOs in your team are leaving and you have to replace them, otherwise you'll drop out of qualification! The Mona Vie Black Diamond apparently gave the impression that they had left Amway due to anger at Amway's request to sign the declaration. A customer buys the Amway products for themselves, no matter what their pseudo business card says. To some maybe but from what I've read, I'm not convinced it is. Its great to know that a lot of diamonds are qualifying each year. I ask because I've seen your name before in game. Its being ripped off by the scam.Yeah I remember the Amway cult leaders preaching over and over to show the plan. I'm going to repost your comments on an upcoming post because this is an older post and some people might miss what you have to say. The beachfront island resort offers vast ocean views and lively pools and lagoons in a setting for unforgettable adventure. 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